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Re: internal software error- Encore 6.01

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I have these notes re the 332 error:

 

Chapter markers on top of each other or too close to beginning or end? [Possibly related to your gap issue?]

 

Multiple videos on one timeline? [Does not apply to your situation, correct?]

 

If not, are you using dynamic link? [Does not apply to your situation.]

 

Many users are still creating disks with current encoder.  I don't think it is just an incompatibility.


Re: internal software error- Encore 6.01

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I didn't even add any Chapter markers...but I will check if there is an errant one. There is only 1 video per timeline. I was not using dynamic link. I will also try a new project and add black with silent audio track. Thanks for your input...I appreciate it.

Re: internal software error- Encore 6.01

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Hey...great idea about Chapter markers..There were a couple of duplicates in that timeline. I deleted them and the DVD was able to be built.

So the takeaway is that I was not able to create a DVD using an m2v encoded in AME, but was able to using a QT movie and encoding in Encore. Obviously this needs more tinkering. But not today.

 

Thanks!

Re: internal software error- Encore 6.01

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Wow! Excellent. I'm glad I passed on those possibilities even though none of them seem to fit your project.

Re: Several Playlist questions

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Thanks Stan. You've been very helpful. Now I have a much better idea of what I should be doing with EN and what I shouldn't.

 

I might start a new thread about the Star Trek episodes – kind of reverse engineer it to find out what the producers did with their fancy software, that EN can't do.

Re: Possible to not have pauses between clips in Blu-ray?

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I created some test Builds using files from Premiere that had Encore markers inserted. The pauses were still there.

 

Next test is to put the files onto separate timelines in Premiere, render, and see if AE handles them any differently.

 

However, it's looking like pauses are unavoidable when using AE, but fancier software – and Blu-ray disks – can avoid them.

Re: Making Blu ray's in encore

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thanks to both Richard and Stan for the help, it instantly fixed the issue when I encoded with blu-ray h.264.

 

That being said any suggestions on the WAV audio going out of sync? or should I encode the video and audio as two completely seperate files?

Re: Making Blu ray's in encore

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Using the correct export, it should create an m4v and wav files, and the audio should be in sync. It might help for you to post a screenshot of your export settings from PR.


Re: Making Blu ray's in encore

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Appreciate all the help, its making me appreciate straight to online formats

These are the export settings I'm running from Premier Pro

 

Re: presets for dvds?

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Are you using Encore or trying to export from AME?

Disecting a Star Trek Blu-ray

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I want to work out some of the limitations of Encore compared to more advanced Blu-ray authoring packages. I've chosen to examine a Blu-ray from the original series of Star Trek. This is what's on the disk:

 

  • Four 50-minute episodes, plus some extras.
  • Each episode is offered in two versions: original and enhanced. The enhanced version replaces the original exterior scenes (planets, spaceships) with modern computer-generated scenes.  Any scenes featuring characters (Kirk, Spock and so on) are left unchanged in both versions.
  • The Stream folder on the Blu-ray disk has 115 encrypted m2ts files in it, files which cannot be opened.
  • Ripping software reveals that each episode has six m2ts files associated with it: the introduction, 4 sections that fade to black for commercials, and the credits.
  • Those six m2ts files are from the enhanced version. The ripping software cannot see the original exterior shots, of which there would be about 80 on the disk (~20 per episode)

 

To emphasise the last point: each enhanced version is encoded in six m2ts files that total about 50 minutes. Those six files contain enhanced exterior scenes, and original character scenes, encoded together. In combination, they form the enhanced version.

 

Below, I have made two observations about how this disk might have been authored. If any of my observations are likely incorrect, please let me know.

 

Observation 1

Given that the ripping software sees only the enhanced version, I assume the six files of the entire enhanced version went onto one timeline, with chapters markers at appropriate points. This timeline is accessed by a button called Enhanced in the main menu. Press Enhanced, and away you go, straight through the episode with fades to black for commercials.

 

Observation 2

To play the episode in its original form, you click on the Original button. This is where it gets complicated and I'm not sure how they did it. What happens is this: about 20 times per episode, the enhanced version branches away to an exterior scene of the original version. You see a grainy, wooden model of the Enterprise, for example. When that original scene finishes, play branches back to the enhanced version (but it's actually going back to an original character scene, which was encoded into an m2ts file as part of the enhanced version).

 

I said it was complicated!

 

Those branch points are not accessible via the remote control. They are not chapter points.

 

I'm guessing that they accomplished the above by having a second timeline identical to the first, but this second timeline has Branch points (I just made them up) as well as chapter points. At an Branch Out point, the flow branches to the original exterior shot (a grainy, model Enterprise, for example, instead of a computer-generated Enterprise). When that original clip is finished, it branches back to the enhanced version at a Branch In point.

 

Summary

So we have enhanced episodes that are broken into six m2ts files, files which contain all the enhanced sections, all the original character sections, but none of the original exterior shots.

 

And we have original episodes that appear to use the same six m2ts files as above, but which branch away to the original exterior shots about 20 times per episode.

 

Ques

It seems to me that the type of flow described above would not be possible in Encore. Or is it possible?

Re: Disecting a Star Trek Blu-ray

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No answer here, but I'll add some info.

 

BDs can be enhanced by BD-J, basically Java for Blu-rays. Encore does not provide this, just as it does not provide scripting for DVDs. What these accomplish, as I understand it, is flexibility and enhancement.

 

A work around for some of these issues are tools like BDEdit.

 

BD uses a different stream format than DVD, and multiple video etc streams can be placed in one file.

File sizes much larger in Encore

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I'll begin by saying I'm somewhat of a novice so if I've left out info that is needed to advise on this problem, let me know and I'll be happy to trya nd find it.  My question is this.  I have a video file that is roughly 2.4 GB in size.  When I put it in Encore, it says it is using 6.83 GB of space on the Build tab.  I ran another version of the video and got it down to 1.3 GB in size.  Yet when I put it in Encore, it says it is using 6.83 GB of space on the Build tab.  What is going on here?

Re: File sizes much larger in Encore

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In the Encore project panel, look a the asset (not the timeline) under the "DVD Transcode Status" column (or the Blu-ray if that is what you are making). If it says "Do Not Transcode" it means Encore sees it as legal for DVD (or Blu-ray respectively) and you're good to go.

 

If however, it says "untranscoded," it is not, and Encore will transcode it. If it set to the default of "Automatic" transcode settings, Encore will fill the disk with whatever is ready to transcode when the disk is built.

 

There are other possibilities (content in the ROM section of the disk).

 

If this makes no sense, post screenshots of your Encore project panel and of the build tab.

Re: File sizes much larger in Encore

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Where did you get this video clip that you are putting into Encore, and what format, such as .mp4 or what?

 

Most likely, your source video is very highly compressed at a low bit rate, then since Encore must transcode into MPEG-2 to meet the DVD spec, it is using a default bit rate that is higher than the source file thus the larger size. Most likely scenario. Unless as Stan alluded to, could be other factors at work. But let's start with the source video.


Thanks

 

 

Jeff


Re: File sizes much larger in Encore

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Initially I had used H264 videos.  I just encoded one in MPEG2 and it came out to about 94 MB.  I changed the project settings to MPEG2 and Blu ray (that's what I'm trying to do) said "do not transcode" as you noted above.  But, under the Build tab, it says this one file is using 267 MB of space.  So even though I made the changes noted, it is still using triple the size of the file, just like the MP4 videos.  Also there is no other content on the video.  One timeline, itself set as first play.

Re: File sizes much larger in Encore

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If you're stating the size correctly, that is a tiny video. There's a default amount on the DVD. Open a new Encore project and look at the build tab. Also, import one of your larger files and see if you're still seeing the difference.

Re: File sizes much larger in Encore

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Did a test on larger MPEG file. Triples file size.  Looking at the properties section in Windows, I have the following information if this helps:

Frame width: 720

Frame height: 480

Data rate: 6000 kbps

Total bitrate: 6224 kbps

Frame rate: 29fps

Audio bit rate: 224 kbps

Channels: 2

Audio sample rate: 48 khz

Re: File sizes much larger in Encore

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Help us to help you...you said you are making a Blu-ray, but the latest specs are DVD (720x480). And we still don't know the source video specs.

Re: File sizes much larger in Encore

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Sure.  For several years now, I've used blu ray discs to hold video that is not HD as it can obv hold more.  It helps me get all my videos on one disc.  A number of the videos were taken from 8mm tapes.

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